audiomulch

[taylordeupree]

i just bought my license...

wonder if i'll get a download code or a boxed version?

i received no reply or receipt from Ross or audiomulch...

anyone know how the registration/download/purchase process works?

[mac]

i just bought my license...

wonder if i'll get a download code or a boxed version?

i received no reply or receipt from Ross or audiomulch...

anyone know how the registration/download/purchase process works

I purchased over pay pal and received an authorization key via email I guess within 48h.

edit: I guess there is no boxed version at all. I just entered the key into my 60-days evaluation copy in help menu.

[taylordeupree]

yea, it's all sorted now. just, when i paid with paypal i saw something about it to be "sent to the following address".. which implied a box to me. but, ross emailed me the code a little while ago.

[mac]

happy mulchin' Taylor. Let us know how it works for you and share some output/patches along the way.

also interesting and somewhat simmilar in approach (patching) - Sensomusic's Usine
http://www.sensomusic.com/usine/
just started exploring and so far excited about it and getting into the swing.

On Audiomulch site there is a list of albums made with the software or with partial use of it. I highly recommend Vert's albums to check Audiomulch in action.

Also came across an interview with Kieran Hebden (Four Tet) who mainly "exploits" and composes in Mulch . Dated Jul 2003, still interesting to read about his approach and work flow back then.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul03/articles/fourtet.asp

[s_hamann]

Also came across an interview with Kieran Hebden (Four Tet) who mainly "exploits" and composes in Mulch . Dated Jul 2003, still interesting to read about his approach and work flow back then.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul03/articles/fourtet.asp

When I first started using Audiomulch, I believe it's most famous user was Stock, Hausen & Walkman (!). Now, Four Tet, Manitoba/Caribou, and Girl Talk I think are the ones that get mentioned the most.

[jimmy behan]

I normally just set up some loop players and fx chains routed to various mixers/submixers/x-faders.
This gets me out of the timeline/multitrack psychology of DAWs which is what I really like about it, it's more open-ended than that.

The metasurface is where it's all really at for me, such a powerful feature, especially now with the automation.
To be able to control so many fx/mixer/send parameters (of different sounds or 'tracks') at once with the mouse is so cool.
That way you're processing different sounds/tracks at the same time rather than just recording one track, then the next, then the next etc., so you can sonically relate different tracks to each other in a vertical way, as opposed to the lateral/linear ways of a multitrack.
And with the excellent routing abilities you can record from any point in the patch.

I'll normally use the multi file-recorder contraptions then to record say, 4 or 6 stereo files at once of some live mulching 'performances' and edit/mix these tracks in the DAW. As they are recorded at the same time, they'll all be in sync in the DAW.
I suppose I could mix it all in Mulch too, but I prefer the workflow of the DAW for that.

[s_hamann]

I suppose I could mix it all in Mulch too, but I prefer the workflow of the DAW for that.

For sure, sometimes it's nice just to have linear tracks and a big old mixer in front of you. I mostly mix everything in Mulch when the project becomes too complex to mix down to stems.

[The Green Kingdom]

I normally just set up some loop players and fx chains routed to various mixers/submixers/x-faders.
This gets me out of the timeline/multitrack psychology of DAWs which is what I really like about it, it's more open-ended than that.

The metasurface is where it's all really at for me, such a powerful feature, especially now with the automation.
To be able to control so many fx/mixer/send parameters (of different sounds or 'tracks') at once with the mouse is so cool.
That way you're processing different sounds/tracks at the same time rather than just recording one track, then the next, then the next etc., so you can sonically relate different tracks to each other in a vertical way, as opposed to the lateral/linear ways of a multitrack.
And with the excellent routing abilities you can record from any point in the patch.

I'll normally use the multi file-recorder contraptions then to record say, 4 or 6 stereo files at once of some live mulching 'performances' and edit/mix these tracks in the DAW. As they are recorded at the same time, they'll all be in sync in the DAW.
I suppose I could mix it all in Mulch too, but I prefer the workflow of the DAW for that.

Some very cool and practical techniques Jimmy, I really need to check out "the Mulch"...

[taylordeupree]

yeah, one of the earlier techniques of all-computer (ie: no midi/synths) music i did (actually, all of my ".n" album was done this way i think) was to use the old program Sound Maker, which is sort of like Peak... except that you can open many files at once, and play them all at the same time... carsten nicolai used the same technique on a lot of his early music, and he was showing me his "crystals" tracks (which ended up on the Microscopic Sound comp) in my studio years ago.

the idea of setting up multiple loopers just going into  mixers in mulch is pretty much the same idea.. .and, yeah, it's a great way to get over the timeline/DAW/sequence restrictions...

i think i'll try it out, thanks, jimmy!

[landtitles]

hey there all



is there anyone using audiomulch and bidule,
i've just been getting into the demo of audiomulch (thanks for the great tips) and super digging it
but the demo for bidule doesn't seem to want to work

anyone care to spout off on some of the differences between the two

thanks all

[s_hamann]

I have both, although have neglected Bidule recently. There are quite a few differences:

- Bidule can run as a plugin
- Bidule is designed with low level DSP in mind, similar to MAX/MSP in that way
- Time sync is untethered in Bidule, any module can be sync'ed with any clock source
- Bidule also has an SDK, if you want to code your own modules for it
- Bidule can do FFT/iFFT spectral processing
- Bidule can do MIDI processing, and has more extensive OSC support
- Audiomulch has timeline-based automation
- Audiomulch has the Metasurface
- Audiomulch is generally easier to work with on a base level, parameter control for instance is more simply laid out.

I'm sure there are other major differences I'm forgetting. Bidule is really aimed at being a visual DSP programming environment.

[puggo]

hi all sirs
another license bought here (at least!)
any suggestions for more shared mulch patches-examples-resources  to learn with? (apart from the program ones and the am forum)
will be apreciatted, as always
best,
pug

[landtitles]

thanks for the the info s_h

i think i'm going to have to spring for audiomulch
seems maybe more user friendly and a bit more fun to use
plus bidule has no demo to try anyway so maybe down the road for that

lt

[Orphax]

Ha, great to see more people into mulch now.
If there is interest I can link up those easy examples I made for the previous board (I should still have them).
Just let me know.

[rené]