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Re-amping
« on: July 03, 2011, 11:07:57 pm »
To make a long story short...i have to record/mix a band and because those guys have limited amount of budget they cannot rent a studio to use the right amps. So, i am thinking to use this re-amping technique and the basic idea behind this, is that you record the guitars with clean signal and then you direct each guitar through the amp to mic and then back inside the DAW.

So, if any of you guys have worked with this technique it will be MUCH appreciated if you can share your knowledge on this matter (what to avoid where to pay attention etc.) and of course if you could recommend any good re-amping box.

Thanks.

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 04:05:11 pm »

 
although i have re-amped things at times, i have always done it the ghetto way, ie. soundcard out to amp(impedance problems)
but i'm okay with that

but this is what you want
http://www.reamp.com/

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 10:49:41 am »
You don't lose a thing if you experiment reamping inside the daw with the free versions of Amplitube, Guitar Rig or Pod Farm + an impulse reverb. I won't tell if you don't.  ;)

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 01:02:21 pm »
Common BE more specific! I think that you really want to do that :P

Although i get the main picture.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2011, 07:35:30 am by j髍gos »

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 05:39:34 pm »
Common BE more specific! I think that you really want to do that :P

Although i get the main picture.

I won't tell about it because software reamping is "ugly" in some circles. But, you're lucky: if you have the POD X3 you can use the POD Farm plugin free. I use it and it's mega cool.

http://line6.com/podx3/recording.html

To reamp just record a stereo pair with the dry signal in one channel and the effected in the other, that way you can reamp the clean one with the POD Farm. I'm pretty shure I saw this setup detailed in the manual or in the recording how to.

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 02:27:25 am »

I won't tell about it because software reamping is "ugly" in some circles. But, you're lucky: if you have the POD X3 you can use the POD Farm plugin free. I use it and it's mega cool.

http://line6.com/podx3/recording.html

To reamp just record a stereo pair with the dry signal in one channel and the effected in the other, that way you can reamp the clean one with the POD Farm. I'm pretty shure I saw this setup detailed in the manual or in the recording how to.

I have the POD XT LIVE but i think i can use the POD Farm...i will download it! But i also have Guitar Rig which i use to produce noisy stuff.

I don't know if i appreciate enough those plug ins for guitar works in "conventional" forms of music, like rock for example but i may be wrong about their quality and how you can use them.

Maybe you can do some pretty nice stuff avoiding the "too digital" sound.

I will try both re-amping techniques, internal and external and....good luck. :P

i have to experiment a bit with those things!

Thanks for the info!

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 07:54:01 am »
i've got a pod x3, but i've never tried the plug in version.. i should hook it up and see if i can get it to work.

i don't use the Pod much.. don't know why.. it's my only source of "amp" sounds and such

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 09:11:44 am »
I use a pocket POD always when going direct to get some color.

I always used to see this advertised in TAPE OP.
http://www.reamp.com/

Also, Radial makes a box for reamping. And countless others I assume.

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2011, 06:06:43 pm »
I really like the POD plugin. It doesn't sound as "stereodized" as Guitar Rig or Amplitube, its more dry and solid ("monoized" :), but since it has a lot of different models you can place the sound in the mix with many colors.

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 01:10:43 pm »
Important question :
will i need a DI box for the external re-amping? You know, in order to connect interface to re-amping box etc.

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2011, 03:55:19 pm »
I'm going to go against the grain and suggest you avoid digital amp simulators. Nothing compares to a nice warm tube amp moving real air in front of a mic. If you're any good with a soldering iron, you can build a really nice reamp box for cheaps. I built the box shown on this forum thread (yeah, just ignore the fact that's called Ultimate Metal Forum... still good info) and it sounds great:
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/equipment/459195-50-d-i-y-reamp-box.html
Otherwise, I've heard good stuff about this super useful looking box. I think it acts as both a DI box and a reamp, and an effect looper.
http://www.pigtronix.com/products08/keymaster.html
Good luck!

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2011, 05:05:49 pm »
@Sublamp

Yeah, i agree about tube amp sound..it's really something else.

Thanks a lot for the links and for the keymaster unit i didn't know about that at all..looks good i will check it for sure!

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2011, 06:04:40 am »
I have been using a line 6 pod for ages but thought that the pre-set sounds are pretty much useless. But: it is really worth tweaking the sounds with the editor software (e.g. adding "air", etc.).

Of course it is not like micing a real amp.

In an ideal world  I'd have a small studio space or would live in a house without direct neighbours but I simply don't.

So for the cheap of us, simply get an old pod of ebay (version one with version 2 software upgrade is what I have). I know that this is not "reamping". If it helps: Fennesz and Jefre Cantu-Ledesma use the pod on stage...

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2011, 07:00:18 am »
I have the pod xt live but like i said i don't use it that much..i don't know why, i just don't.

Pod is really good for noisy stuff ( fennesz for example ) but when you come to more "conventional music" i think it's pretty hard to get a really good sound through it, not impossible though.

And yes, most of the pre-set sounds are totally useless but i have one or two sounds that i really like and i use them sometimes.

Overall i think that we all here prefer the real amp sound, although some friends of mine prefer the Pod for some wild reason!

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Re: Re-amping
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2011, 03:02:02 am »
Love my pod X3 and the plugin
All the guitars and bass were reamped with it on this album
http://www.deezer.com/fr/music/that-summer/near-miss-610020