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Le Berger

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Re: It's only fair...
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2011, 02:45:05 pm »
this is simply not a world i like the looks of
i agree labels and artists have to adapt to new ways, and i believe 12k has done that.

Indubitably.
+ there's much going on there, a long standing track record of quality releases, that speaks for itself. For as long as that image and the respect of your peers / them 'circles' keeps things afloat there's absolutely no reason to change anything drastically, is there?

I guess what I'm saying here is that adaptability isn't mere reaction to external circumstances, but also foresight and the ability to shape your own stance according to those changes already happening as well as those to come. And it doesn't take that clean a crystal ball to see where music distribution and promotion is headed...

cannot keep fighting against the piracy which is overwhelming.

That seems to be the anglestone of it all, right there. Loss of ownership, and no matter what is done as of yet to prevent or circumvent it, it seems clear that the battle is lost. The very music you create and work hard on releasing properly is not yours anymore, you don't control where it goes and how, etc. and finding retribution for it gets harder each and every day.

My point is that if someone (or an entity / label / or you know, me  ;)) is to come up and profess loud and clear that they demand just and fair retribution for their work. By applying some form of 'fair trade' certification or encouraging a business model that promotes fair trade values, it's a way to take that ownership back.

Sure, the pirating will happen anyway, but it's a bet to make that the more aware people become, the less likely they are to purposefully hurt one another. That an educated purchase is an ethical vote. Etc.

And my best guess is that it's only a matter of time before it becomes a reality, how it will fare is another story as there are obvious logistical pitfalls and just like anything else the way it's managed will be quintessential to its perennity.


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Re: It's only fair...
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2011, 05:16:50 pm »

...taylor i think it's time for you to use your famous BAN button  ;D

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Re: It's only fair...
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2011, 10:02:46 pm »
uh oh...  :-[

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Re: It's only fair...
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2011, 10:32:51 pm »
There is so much out there and so little time, that not everyone can pay attention to everything they might enjoy.  Consequently, when someone downloads something it doesn't necessarily mean that they would have purchased it.  It just means that they wanted to check it out.  I would be willing to bet that 30% or more of downloaded music files stay either un-listened to or listened to once.  I am basing that figure on anecdotes, not a scientific study of any kind. (major disclaimer: so I'm clear, I don't download any music without paying for it, in case that wasn't obvious.)

The issue arises when too many people assume it's cool, and begin to not pay for things they absolutely would have shelled out for in a different time/climate.  I think it's important for a greater proportion of people to have more of an understanding of cause and effect so they can make informed decisions at least.

One thing we need to keep in mind is the weird, transitional point in history that we're at.  Selling recorded music is an extremely new and short-lived phenomenon.  We take it for granted but it couldn't possibly have lasted forever.  The balance of who gets paid has shifted to the aggregator of creativity, the notifier, rather than the artist or the label.  Companies that promise the artist a new way of promoting themselves, that bank on the idea that one person can "make it" are the ones who still have the opportunity to make a good living off the industry, while holding up a success story or two about a rare occurrence that is used as evidence of the possible.  That isn't a new tactic though. 

New technologies disrupt old ones.  I'm not saying it's awesome, but it just is.  We're affected by large changes and can't fully appreciate what they mean because we're in the middle of it.  This is no consolation to the struggling artist (hello, i'm right here) but it's something to wrangle with and make the most of if possible. 

Maybe we're moving back into an age of artists being supported not by selling their wares but by receiving stipends from a patron.  Maybe there is some sort of balancing act of the ease with which music can be made because of technology and the ease with which it can be consumed because of technology.  I digress.  This is an endless conversation because we can't see the end of it yet.  That is a good thing. 


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Re: It's only fair...
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2011, 07:19:28 am »
well said, zeke... i wish i could add.. but i haven't had my coffee yet this morning.. but a good read to get the head thinking....