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mdoudin

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Generally talking about soundscapes
« on: June 21, 2011, 04:08:18 pm »
Maybe you'll find it boring. I just wanted to bring that thing up, 'cause I'm curious and apparently, nobody's done that yet.

I'm just listening to Tomasz Bednarczyk's Let's Make... which brought me to the subject of sound textures, just like Tomasz used for this album.
I would like to know how YOU create such pure soundscapes (minimalistic drone textures)
Have you ever experienced something very special, totally unexpected with unusual instruments or effects apart from the normal guitar/volume pedal/vst thing?

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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 03:33:08 pm »
That's one big ass bear you're tacklin' there son...

[I tipped my Stetson hat and kicked some dirt with my cowboy boots while I said that]

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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2011, 05:45:19 pm »
The thing I find boring is "the normal guitar/volume pedal/vst thing," also something that I don't associate with the word "soundscape."

especially if you are a guitar player, amplifier choice, mic choice, mic placement, room choice....I could go on and I'm sure others could pitch in.

I associate soundscape with a more complete mix...regardless of how heavily treated the materials are.  what are you tools?  what are your goals?

if yr bored with "the normal guitar/volume pedal/vst thing," get a harmonica, some cymbals, a dictaphone, whatever will get you working differently, really.

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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 04:59:45 pm »
I was reluctant to post in here first, hence the half assed joke post. Seems to me there are as many ways to come up with sounds as there are people coming up with them. That's a big part of what makes it interesting to me, the personality that transpires through and colors the work. And if someone was to come up and give you guidelines you'd be likely to "follow the recipe" and lose some of that. Or maybe not... wtf do I know...

For a piece of advice, as a general rule of thumb I'd say stay the f*** away from any sort of machine presets or generic soundbanks that come with software. You can smell those from a thousand miles out and they tend to make things incredibly bland and lifeless, imho. I'd rather hear a slightly off tune piano with some overhead mic and natural room reverb than the best midi controller with VST sampled grand piano & 16 steps of velocity on every note + God knows what.

Then just don't be afraid to make mistakes, try as many things as you can think of and try them in as many ways as you can think of too, don't be afraid to play with variables (record with mics at different distances, try shuffling things in your signal path, bypass an effect when it gets too crowded, bring in new folks in the studio, a kid even! they are so spontaneous!! etc.) Pay attention to the results of your trials, really pay attention. That way you learn pragmatically and no amount of theory is worth anything close to that, knowing why something works and why it doesn't because you actually did the legwork.

Have fun!

(For more specifics, let's PM)

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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2011, 06:43:49 pm »
What ever WORKS...:P

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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2011, 07:00:17 pm »
What ever WORKS...:P

uh, that's what I meant.  :-[

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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2011, 07:17:31 pm »
What ever WORKS...:P

uh, that's what I meant.  :-[

Yep! I just summarized it :P
 
Personally i enjoy....guitars + pedals + amps + mic placement and of course VSTs and "complex" automations (i know i know it's too obvious but its is also too effective)

So, for me it;s just the fun of the process that counts and of course the final result.

if you like to construct everything from zero it's ok, if you like to use a big amount of presets it's also ok...If it's working!


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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2011, 09:51:19 pm »
Oh, I was gonna forget, pitch down, waaaaaaaaaaaaay way down.  ;D

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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2011, 08:15:43 am »
Oh, I was gonna forget, pitch down, waaaaaaaaaaaaay way down.  ;D

I thought this instruction was on the opening splash screen for ableton?

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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2011, 09:37:07 am »
Oh, I was gonna forget, pitch down, waaaaaaaaaaaaay way down.  ;D

I thought this instruction was on the opening splash screen for ableton?

it is also the label on that most important slider of the 2880 looper...

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Re: Generally talking about soundscapes
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 10:38:58 am »
Thanks for the cool replies. I was experimenting with some acoustic guitars and voice droning together in very much reverb. I looped them and put some Audiobulb Ambient Reverb on it. And yeah berger, I invited my younger cousin (13 years old) to sing something and he was really inspired. sounded like an arabic piece of vocal or so.