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SELF PROMOTION / Field recording centered work: Stories & Stuff
« on: July 18, 2010, 11:50:22 am »
Hi

I finally managed to somehow publish my works, so they're now in MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/vainokurki

The six tracks there form a 60 minute concept album that I call "Stories & Stuff". They're mostly field recordings with some other sounds and elements. Dynamic stuff, be careful with volume. I have utilized field recordings' special features as well as I can: these tracks reflect everyday events - and something else too, I guess. Have nice experiences and please leave a comment :)

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OTHER MUSIC / Best way to share art
« on: July 11, 2010, 05:02:12 pm »
Hello

As someones may remember, some months ago I asked here about record labels' procedures. That has caused good, I have been in contact to some of them, learned a lot about uncommercial music "industry", found out who shares the same view as me etc. Thank you very much who helped me :)

But now the situation is that I have realized that maybe the record label isn't a good thing for me. I mean, you always should check your goals before acting. What I'm trying to achieve? First I had this little dream of earning couple of euros, but now I have realized that I can't get even five cents with experimental stuff - art doesn't make money (expect the painting business that I can't understand!). Anyway. My goal now is just to share my art. To reach people with the same ideas and views, to get friends around the same interests, to give ideas for other artists so that they can develop my ideas so that I can improve my own art. That's what I'm looking for. How to do it?

Thank God we have internet. I would have killed myself 30 years ago. But it's still not so easy... let me explain. I have been working with field recordings and I have now completed a sixty minute concept album, that is quite a unconventional. It contains just pure field recordings but also some other sounds and the entirety is not just some traffic noise. If I would just give you a link to my stuff at this site's "Self promotion" -subforum, what do you think, would it work? Hell no. There are like 10 active users on this forum and if I'm like, maybe two or three of them don't immediately puke when they heard field recordings - I just mean that not many share the same interests when it's about experimental art that is very strange and difficult to absorb. I'm not the one you should play track that contains just white noise - I could find it somewhat interesting, but I wouldn't really get excited, I guess.

I think and think and think all the time this thing. How to share my art? I want to be a part of the community of art music. How have you progressed? I know it's common to release albums via such labels as 12k, but does it really help me to reach my goal - I mean, how many people actually listen to these recordings? So few... it's not very popular if twenty copies are sold! I want to share my stuff for as meny persons as I can. My brother has released many (~30) songs for free in internet on a Finnish music sharing site, and they have been listened to hundreds of times, but guess what - all the listeners are some normal people, his drinking buddies, that listen to his songs with one earphone while talking to friends, and then describe the music as "fucking weird shit" and advise him to consult a doctor. Can you recognize this situation? :D

We have Youtube, we have Myspace, we have Facebook, we have many things that help us to be in contact. But I've seen so many times how someone releases something via Youtube, and the video will be watched 100 times - it sucks! 10 000 would be ok. I want to do that. And now to the practice:

How about hosting a personal web site where the music would be released and then advertising that site in every place that might have some people who would be interested in same kind of stuff? It sounds like a good idea to me, but I often realize that in the end my ideas suck, so let me know if this is a bad idea too. I just don't really know any other way. The idea of going through complicated arrangements, spending a lot of money, flattering some quarters, and as a result getting a CD that will be bought by five collectors that won't even listent to it, doesn't attract me. It won't give me any publicity among the artist circles.

Help me guys. How to get your attention? ???

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SELF PROMOTION / What genre is this?
« on: April 16, 2010, 12:29:57 pm »
Hi

My brother has been making music since December 2008. He started to produce electronic music half a year later. Some of the tracks are almost only about sound, some are melodic, harmonic and rhythmic. The problem now is that nobody really knows the genre. It's electronic, but can't say more. Here are some links to his pieces, I (and he) would be glad if you would listen to some of these and tell what genre of music or whatever it is. It would be useful to know the genre so that we would know what record labels could be interested etc. He doesn't have account here so he can't ask himself.

http://www.mikseri.net/music/play.php?id=393407&type=dl
"Savu/Fog"

http://www.mikseri.net/music/play.php?id=418322&type=dlhttp://www.mikseri.net/music/play.php?id=402857&type=dl
"Laukkalan pelto/Laukkala's Field"

http://www.mikseri.net/music/play.php?id=419098&type=dl
"Gospel/Gospel"
Attention! This is just a song and it doesn't take a stance on religion in any ways.

Here's a link to all the songs:
http://www.mikseri.net/artists/avaruusmies.114350.php

Just tell your opinion about the genre and we will appreciate that very much :)

Thank you!

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This actually concerns music production, but because I'm not talking about the physical production (recording, playing, mixing etc.) I put this here.

So the thing is that I have ambitious ideas considering sound art, but I am not able to produce them myself. For example, I need high-quality recording equipment to get the sound I want, and for some other tracks I need actors to say the things my art needs with the correct tone and way. And how I, young penniless guy without any contacts to music business could get those things without any help? I thouhgt that I need a record label to give me these things. I've sent many demos to different record labels and got couple of positive replies. Now I'm wondering, how should I proceed? How these things usually go? How much does the record label offer to you (personnel, recording equipment, money etc.) to produce the music and how much does that depend on the record label and what do I need to do to get what I want etc. etc. etc.... I could just ask record labels about these things but I want to know some basic stuff before I start to negotiate.

This is very topical issue because I actually got e-mail from one label that I should now send material for a whole album (if I understood correctly, I may have not!), but I dont't have that and I thought that I will make it in co-operation with the label. So what's the standard procedure?

This is very important for me. Thank you very much for everyone who gives even a little piece of information!

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OTHER MUSIC / Sound art/experimental music record labels
« on: April 05, 2010, 06:57:23 am »

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